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Sovlios · Aug 31, 2008, 07:11 PM // 19:11

Hi, in my guild (VoF best guild ever) I am incharge of the lottery. And the problem is that the pott this time will probably rise above 50k. So my question is this: How much tradeless money can I give without Anet thinking its illigal money trade (for real money)?

Thank you.

Ultima pyromancer · Aug 31, 2008, 07:16 PM // 19:16

screenshots are the best way to go. make sure you get both of your tags in the same pic to show you are in the same guild. they can check chat logs and if they see its a community event such as this, they will have no reason to ban, and you can always appeal

JayH · Aug 31, 2008, 07:16 PM // 19:16

iv often wondered before when trading money between my accounts, but i dont think there is much of a chance.

if they looked at the chat logs, they would be able to see it was a lottery.

i have traded about 400k + 500e in continous trades with my second account and none of them have been banned, needless to say if they were id go ape shit.

Proff · Aug 31, 2008, 07:32 PM // 19:32

A LOT, you have nothing to worry about.

TEB Elite · Aug 31, 2008, 07:46 PM // 19:46

I dont think that the detection system they have in place counts large amounts of money being traded without anything in return.

LicensedLuny · Aug 31, 2008, 08:16 PM // 20:16

I doubt they'd refuse to reverse a ban they placed on you for such a thing. But you want to lessen the chance that some script running identifies you as a gold seller and, thus, better avoid having to appeal something in the first place.

Instead of just giving the winner the gold, why not trade the gold to the winner for some inconsequential item. Whoever wins, have them give you a tanned hide square (or something) in exchange for the gold. That way it's not a one-sided trade, and maybe that way a script doesn't flag your account(s) in the first place.

It's what I would do. I'd take screenshots, too.

t00115577 · Aug 31, 2008, 08:17 PM // 20:17

If you wanna be safe, take person to an exp area, drop cash and let them pick it up.

Elder III · Aug 31, 2008, 08:18 PM // 20:18

chances are that you would never have any trouble at all - however people have been banned for "suspicious trading" - to be sure of avoiding even the appearance of that, just put a junk white item in for trade. That way there isn't a sum of money exchanging hands with no item to show for it.

Covah · Aug 31, 2008, 08:55 PM // 20:55

Just have them trade a useless item when trading the money. It will just look like a normal transaction then.

dilan155 · Aug 31, 2008, 09:42 PM // 21:42

atm, NO ONE besides a-net knows what the rules for this kind of thing are. People have been guesstimating but most are inaccurate. Its best to be safe on all sides, make sure to say something about this in chat take a SS.

Gift3d · Aug 31, 2008, 09:45 PM // 21:45

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Originally Posted by Elder III

chances are that you would never have any trouble at all - however people have been banned for "suspicious trading" - to be sure of avoiding even the appearance of that, just put a junk white item in for trade. That way there isn't a sum of money exchanging hands with no item to show for it.

...I'm sure the people over at ANet aren't a bunch of stupid naive jackasses. Apparently lots of people think they are, what a shame.

Nobody knows, or has any idea how the detection processes go for illegal in-game trades. Unless you work for ncsoft, you. just. don't. Your best bet is to just have a screenshot, and if a problem arises, provide the screenshot with your appeal. I doubt you have anything to worry about, though.

The Meth · Aug 31, 2008, 09:58 PM // 21:58

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Originally Posted by LicensedLuny

Instead of just giving the winner the gold, why not trade the gold to the winner for some inconsequential item. Whoever wins, have them give you a tanned hide square (or something) in exchange for the gold. That way it's not a one-sided trade, and maybe that way a script doesn't flag your account(s) in the first place.

From what I have heard gold sellers use this method. Probably better just to give them the gold straight instead of looking like you are trying to get around any detection there may be.

Sovlios · Sep 01, 2008, 03:53 AM // 03:53

ty guys

Dante the Warlord · Sep 01, 2008, 01:02 PM // 13:02

Yea Ilfated Fat gave away 100e to three people and im sure she didn't get banned for that. If she can get away donating 8x as much money im sure you can get away with donating 50k

Aug 31, 2008, 07:11 PM // 19:11	#1
Sovlios Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Israel Profession: A/R	Is this alowed? Hi, in my guild (VoF best guild ever) I am incharge of the lottery. And the problem is that the pott this time will probably rise above 50k. So my question is this: How much tradeless money can I give without Anet thinking its illigal money trade (for real money)? Thank you.

Aug 31, 2008, 07:16 PM // 19:16	#2
Ultima pyromancer Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2007 Guild: Club Of A Thousand Pandas [LOD???] Profession: Me/	screenshots are the best way to go. make sure you get both of your tags in the same pic to show you are in the same guild. they can check chat logs and if they see its a community event such as this, they will have no reason to ban, and you can always appeal

Aug 31, 2008, 07:16 PM // 19:16	#3
JayH Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: England Guild: [EviL] Profession: Mo/Me	iv often wondered before when trading money between my accounts, but i dont think there is much of a chance. if they looked at the chat logs, they would be able to see it was a lottery. i have traded about 400k + 500e in continous trades with my second account and none of them have been banned, needless to say if they were id go ape shit.

Aug 31, 2008, 07:32 PM // 19:32	#4
Proff Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2007	A LOT, you have nothing to worry about.

Aug 31, 2008, 07:46 PM // 19:46	#5
TEB Elite Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: California, USA Profession: Mo/	I dont think that the detection system they have in place counts large amounts of money being traded without anything in return.

Aug 31, 2008, 08:16 PM // 20:16	#6
LicensedLuny Badly Influenced Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Buying Humps! (No kidding! Check my buy thread) Guild: Hello Kitty Krewe [HKK] Forever!-ish	I doubt they'd refuse to reverse a ban they placed on you for such a thing. But you want to lessen the chance that some script running identifies you as a gold seller and, thus, better avoid having to appeal something in the first place. Instead of just giving the winner the gold, why not trade the gold to the winner for some inconsequential item. Whoever wins, have them give you a tanned hide square (or something) in exchange for the gold. That way it's not a one-sided trade, and maybe that way a script doesn't flag your account(s) in the first place. It's what I would do. I'd take screenshots, too.

Aug 31, 2008, 08:17 PM // 20:17	#7
t00115577 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2007 Profession: Mo/	If you wanna be safe, take person to an exp area, drop cash and let them pick it up.

Aug 31, 2008, 08:18 PM // 20:18	#8
Elder III Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ohio Guild: I Will Never Join Your Guild (NTY) Profession: R/	chances are that you would never have any trouble at all - however people have been banned for "suspicious trading" - to be sure of avoiding even the appearance of that, just put a junk white item in for trade. That way there isn't a sum of money exchanging hands with no item to show for it.

Aug 31, 2008, 08:55 PM // 20:55	#9
Covah Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Guild: Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ] Profession: Me/Rt	Just have them trade a useless item when trading the money. It will just look like a normal transaction then.

Aug 31, 2008, 09:42 PM // 21:42	#10
dilan155 Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2007 Location: living room Profession: N/	atm, NO ONE besides a-net knows what the rules for this kind of thing are. People have been guesstimating but most are inaccurate. Its best to be safe on all sides, make sure to say something about this in chat take a SS.

Sep 01, 2008, 03:53 AM // 03:53	#13
Sovlios Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Israel Profession: A/R	ty guys

Sep 01, 2008, 01:02 PM // 13:02	#14
Dante the Warlord Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: W/R	Yea Ilfated Fat gave away 100e to three people and im sure she didn't get banned for that. If she can get away donating 8x as much money im sure you can get away with donating 50k